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How to get rid of a telemarketer

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(idea) by wharfinger (6.4 y) (print)   ?   (I like it!) 3 C!s Sun May 21 2000 at 1:00:26

This is easy as pie and deceptively simple, but absolutely reliable. I've never known it to fail, and I'm not just saying that.

It goes like this: The phone rings! I raise the receiver to my ear!

Me: Hello?
Voice on phone: Hi, is this J . . . J . . .
Me: [in a pleasant voice] Thanks, but I'm not interested. Have a nice night.
*Click*.

I know this is hard to believe, but if you just hang up the phone, they stop talking to you! Really. It works every time. Go figure. Since I discovered this simple yet powerful secret, telemarketers haven't bothered me at all. They don't annoy me, they don't piss me off, they don't waste my time. It's really miraculous.

Torturing those people doesn't accomplish anything. Being mean to somebody at the bottom of the telemarketing totem pole will never, ever do anything to harm the institution of telemarketing. It's like sticking pins in a voodoo doll, or burning an effigy: You're only beating up on a symbol of the institution, so the effect on the institution itself is purely symbolic (in plain English, imaginary). You're focusing all your hate on a scapegoat. You know that already, don't you?

So why do it? Because it's "fun"?

Telemarketers lose their jobs if they hang up the phone. You're not a captive audience; they are. If you fuck with them, you're abusing a position of power to torture somebody who can't hit back, and I argue (see above) that you are doing it solely for kicks. Views differ, but that doesn't strike me as anything to be proud of. You think you'll get them fired? You think you'll make them quit? Maybe you will, but if they all quit or get fired, they'll all be replaced in a week. I guarantee that: Telemarketing exists because the economics work. Maybe Alan Greenspan can change that, but you're not Alan Greenspan. If you really want to strike back, find out who's doing telemarketing in your area, look up the president of the company, and call that fucker with a great deal on aluminum siding at 3:00 AM every night for a month. But tormenting the poor dumb five-dollar-an-hour bastards is pointless. They've got a firm grip on the shitty end of the stick already, and if they could get a better job, they probably would.


Note: Most of this witeup used to be a long, ornate, and gloriously savage flame directed at the "torment the telemarketers" responses below, in particular that of Spuunbenda. Then I realized how pointless and counterproductive it was, even though that stuff's fun to write. Then I couldn't bear to come back and look at the thing for many months, and finally I got around to fixing it. The point is that if any writeups down there are flaming me, there was a good reason for it when they were written.


(idea) by coby (3.5 y) (print)   ?   (I like it!) 1 C! Sun May 21 2000 at 3:09:59

If you get repeat calls from the same telemarketer (and don't assume that because it's from a different company that it's a different telemarketer), merely explain that the FCC promulgates regulations that require that a company cease and desist from calling consumers who request that they no longer receive calls. Tell the telemarketer to put you on its "do not call" list.

If the telemarketer says that they do not have such a list, reply that they do in fact have such a list (many companies will lie about this, but they are required to keep this list), and that if they do not comply with your request, that you will inform the FCC of their violation.

Stupot says the UK version of the FCC regulation is the "Telephone Preference Service" which is run by the Direct Marketing Association.

There are rules for this sort of thing. Unfortunately, most people don't know their rights.

That said, when they call my parents' house for my dad and my little sister answers the phone, she replies in a sad voice, "Daddy doesn't live here any more. Mommy says he drinks too much." That seems to work too.


(idea) by katherine (4.7 hr) (print)   ?   (I like it!) 3 C!s Wed Oct 10 2001 at 13:15:02

Three easy methods to end your telemarketing woes:
that don't involve violence, mind games, etc.

First, Find out if your state has a no-call list. Georgia, Oregon, Kentucky, Florida, Tennessee, Pennsylvania*, Kansas, Missouri **, and New York*** have them, and a few others (e.g. Texas) have been considering them in legislature for some time. This is the quickest, cheapest way to get rid of phone solicitors.

I'll use Georgia as an example: Once per quarter, telemarketing companies get a cd in from the Georgia Public Service Commission with a list of numbers not to call. They have to be very meticulous while importing this into their databases, because If they miss any numbers, they can be fined up to $20,000 for each entry they accidentally call. It's relatively cheap to be put on this list (between $5 and $10), and the registration lasts for two years in most cases.
More information is available at:
http://www.ganocall.com/
http://www.ornocall.com/
http://www2.state.tn.us/tra/nocall.htm
http://www.call-busters.com/
http://www.nocallsplease.com/
http://www.law.state.ky.us/cp/nocall.htm
http://www.state.ks.us/public/ksag/contents/consumer/nocall/no-call.htm
http://www.ago.state.mo.us/nocalllaw.htm
or 1-888-777-3406 (in Pennsylvania)

Second, There are a number of third-party organizations out there that will periodically compile lists of people who wish not to be called. These lists have very little legal backing, but are usually fairly effective. They tell the telemarketing companies "Hey, this number isn't interested in anything you have to sell... don't waste your time here". Many telemarketing companies subscribe to three or four of these. These can be found at:
http://privatecitizen.com/
http://www.cdma.org/consumers/dnm_dnc.html
1-800-CUT-JUNK. (in Canada)

The last thing you can do is to ask them to remove you from their list. The Federal Trade Commission is fairly strict about enforcing this, and has been known to fine offenders up to $500 per incident. Most telemarketing companies have insurance against such fines, but the insurance requires that all calls be recorded and stored for no less than 7 years. If there's a disagreement concerning whether or not you asked to be removed from the list, chances are good that your conversation is on record...

If they're still pushy after you've asked to be removed from their list, they are in the wrong. Either hang up and report them to the FTC, or play whatever mind games you wish. Keep in mind, though, that contrary to public opinion, these folks can hang up. Usually, it's only the newbies who are overly pushy, but they tend to learn pretty quickly not to waste dialer time.


* - thanks to dmk for the Pennsylvania information.
** - thanks to koreykruse for the Kansas and Missouri information
*** - thanks to Pint for the New York information
See also National Do Not Call Registry - Thanks to jrn for the link.

(idea) by vivaldi (8.4 mon) (print)   ?   (I like it!) 3 C!s Sat Nov 16 2002 at 4:49:39

The most effective way to reduce telemarketing calls is to get placed on a state's "No Call List" if one is available in your area (see Dann's writeup above). However in many states there isn't such a list kept and in others there is a delay of 3 months to 1 year before telemarketers are required to quit calling.

There are a few products you can purchase that help you reduce these annoying calls, but they each have their limitations. The most effective products are the ones that utilize the Caller ID features of your phone. You might be tempted to try out some of these products so I have included information about all of them below:

The TeleZapper and other devices utilizing SIT tones

The TeleZapper is a heavily advertised product that promises to greatly reduce the frequency of telemarketing calls. The product is manufactured by Privacy Technologies Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of Royal Appliance Mfg. Co. (The people behind the Dirt Devil and Royal Vacuum Sweepers. The first TeleZapper model was introduced into national retail stores in the fall of 2001. A new version introduced in 2002 eliminated the electrical cord and bulky AC adapter (by using batteries) and it also allows selection between one (Basic Privacy) to three tones (Advanced Privacy). The current version has a suggested retail price of $39.99.

How does the TeleZapper work?

The TeleZapper plugs into your phone line. When a phone line is picked up by either a human or an answering machine it detects the voltage drop in the line and emits either a single tone or a series of three tones. The three tones are called SIT tones and they are very familar to people that have dialed a non-existant number. It sounds something like "duh...doo...dah". Normally the telephone company follows the SIT tones with an informational message, e.g. "The number you are trying to reach is no longer in service."

The single-tone ("Basic Privacy") option uses just the first of the three tones. Many dialers will disconnect upon hearing just the single tone, while others require all three.

If the telemarketer is using an affected predictive dialer their computer will hear the tones and hang up. Some dialers will disconnect on the first tone and others apparently require all three. The dial may also remove the number from the dialers call list depending on how it was programmed. If your number is removed from the call list you won't receive any more calls from that telemarketer.

Royal claims the TeleZapper eliminates ~90% of the telemarketing calls to a phone line after being used for just one month. Independent anecdotal evidence indicates that the rate is not nearly that high but most people say that the product does work to some extent in lowering the number of calls. The major deficiency of the product is that it is completely ineffective unless the person is using predictive dialing. About 20% of telemarketers don't use any computerized dialers and they will still get through.

You should be aware that every caller to your house will hear these tones when you pick up the phone. They might even be confused and hang up. You might get annoyed having to explain the odd tones to every caller. Also, there are some organizations that use predictive dialers that you may actually want to hear from: blood banks, doctor's office, or your church. Reminder calls from your favorite organizations may be dropped.

Isn't forty bucks a little high for a tone player?

Yes it is. You can easily make a similar device using your own answering machine. All you need to do is record the proper SIT tones before your outgoing message on your machine. There are 4 different SIT tones available, but the TeleZapper and similar products all use the tone that specifies "Vacant Circuit (out of service or nonexistent phone number)".

You can download the proper SIT tones from numerous sources on the internet. Just do a search for "SIT tones" on Google.com and you'll quickly find a site that has them. At least for now you can download all the SIT Tones from: http://artofhacking.com/files/sounds/index.htm

Of course if you use your own answering machine to play the tones you'll have to let it screen all of your calls for a while. ("2002.11.16@15:36 yerricde says ...this won't work on some digital answering machines, as they are designed only for voice and don't pass pure tones properly. My Uniden answering machine has this feature".)

What are telemarketers doing about this?

Many of them have either altered or completed changed their "predictive dialer" programs so that they ignore the SIT tones. Avaya Inc., a company that makes dialer equipment has this to say about its newest dialer:

After extensive testing, results showed that the Mosaix Predictive Dialing System does not respond to this tone and operation after receiving the tone proceeds as if the tone was not there.

The TeleZapper has absolutely no effect on the operation of the Mosaix Predictive Dialing System.

As soon as telemarketers change their dialers to ignore SIT tones your $40 TeleZapper will be turned into a paperweight.

Answering machines with Caller ID Intercept or a Mailboxing Telephone Answering Machine

Most telemarketers come across as "Anonymous", "Unavailable", "Out-of-Area", or "Private" on Caller ID devices. There are products available that can immediately direct these calls to an answering machine device for screening. The answering machine can further eliminate calls by having SIT Tones played at the beginning of the message.

Your phone will ring normally when someone calls supplying their Caller ID information and you can just pick it up if you choose. Some telemarketers supply their Caller ID information and come across normally but you should be able to recognize them from this information and just allow your answering machine to answer the calls.

Two of these products are the Casio Phonemate TA-140 (and TA-145) and Nortel Meridian M-9516 12 Box Caller ID Phone. These products aren't cheap. You'll pay around $150 for either one of them.

The Privacy Manager service offered by my local telco

SBC offers a subscription service for $5/month that directs all "Anonymous", "Unavailable", "Out-of-Area", or "Private" Caller ID calls to a voice messaging prompt system. Callers will hear a message that says:

"The person you are trying to reach does not accept unidentified calls. Your Caller ID was not received. To enter an access code, press 1. Or, to record your name so that we may announce your call, press 2."

If the caller enters the correct access code your phone will ring normally. If they record their name "Privacy Manager" will come across on the CallerID box and your phone will ring. If you answer it you'll get 4 options:

  1. Accept the call
  2. Reject the call: "The person you are calling is not available at this time. Please try again later."
  3. Send the call to CallNotes or an answering device.
  4. Send a solicitor's rejection: "Attention! Phone solicitors - Please add this person's name and telephone number to your Do Not Call list. The person you are calling does not accept phone solicitations."

Boxes that have you push a button when you hear a telemarketer

There are many devices offered where you must press a button after you notice you have a live telemarketer on the other end of your phone line. When the button is pressed a recorded message tells the person on the other end that you want to be removed from their call list and you don't want any further calls from them. This device is effective at stopping the live calls you pick up, but it won't stop them from filling up your answering machine with a sales pitch. It also won't stop recorded message sales pitches.


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